Baldur’s Gate 3: How to Find the Ledger & Complete Punish the Wicked in BG3

Find out how to retrieve Madelaine’s Ledger for He Who Was’ ritual to complete Punish the Wicked in Baldur’s Gate 3.

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Wander off east of the Shadow Cursed Lands in Baldur’s Gate 3 to run into a strange man performing a necromancer ritual. Ominously named He Who Was, the man explains he’s attempting to take revenge on this snitch of a tavern keeper, Madelaine. He can’t cast the ritual without her Ledger, which is kept under Thisobald Thorm’s soon-to-burst belly. And so the quest to hunt down this Thorm, retrieve Madelaine’s Ledger, and bring it back to He Who Was begins under Punish the Wicked side quest in Baldur’s Gate 3.

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How to Start Punish the Wicked in Baldur’s Gate 3

Punish The Wicked Quest Start Location BG3 — Screenshot by Gamepur

To start this quest, head to the above location on the Shadow Cursed Lands. Expect some unwelcome encounters with Wraiths on the road, but the necro ritual can’t be missed.

Speak with He Who Was and accept to aid on Punish The Wicked, his quest for vengeance.

Where to Find Madelaine’s Ledger Location in Baldur’s Gate 3

Thisobald Thorm Counter BG3 — Screenshot by Gamepur

Madelaine’s Ledger is under Thisobald Thorm’s possession. This gnarly creature guards The Waning Moon, just north of Moonrise Tower. Make haste for Thisobald’s tavern to toast to his death.

Thisobald Thorm can be brought down in two ways: pretending to drink as he poisons himself, causing his belly to burst, or fighting him in regular combat.

Madelaine's Ledger Location BG3 — Screenshot by Gamepur

Either way, once he’s defeated, Madelaine’s Ledger is yours for the taking. Remove the log behind the counter to grab the ledge for He Who Was in Baldur’s Gate 3.

Baldur’s Gate 3: All Correct Answers in Punish the Wicked in BG3

Complete Punish The Wicked Ritual BG3 — Screenshot by Gamepur

After bringing Madelaine’s Ledger in Baldur’s Gate 3 back to He Who Was, it’s punishment time. After casting the ritual, tavern keeper Madelaine’s soul uses He Who Was’ body as a vessel. At this point, she will reveal what happened between her bar attendees and the Dark Justiciar.

To succeed at the Punish the Wicked Ritual, ask Madelaine to stab herself, just like what happened to the fallen. When she places the dagger on her belly, ask her to go on, but only once. Asking her to keep stabbing herself will make the vessel’s owner, He Who Was, call you sadistic. In hindsight, well, he did instruct to make her beg.

He Who Was will be pleased with the revenge and says he’ll keep your number for future reference.

About the author

Cande Maldonado

Though Cande started her journey in the video game industry as a localization specialist six years ago, she soon realized that her true calling was to annoy NPCS, smash virtual pottery, and complete every side quest available in RPGs. Throwing that useless degree out of the window, she has been writing professionally for the past three years ever since. Her passion for games dates to 2006, when she mounted a Chocobo for the first time. Under Nintendo and Square Enix's chokehold, she will willingly pour hours upon hours into reaching 100% completion in the longest roleplaying games ever made. But hey, who needs fresh air and sunlight when you can just live in Ivalice?